Esoteric Society

Good evening.

We are very pleased to connect with you this evening. To be able to pass on new messages, to connect with your energy again. To feel the strength, the influence and reflection of your group, the power which is growing in strength.

More and more groups are connecting. The information that you pass on is taken to heart by many, is deepened, so to speak. Sister organizations that are engaged in deepening processes. The deepening and exchanging of the information. The connection between different groups is getting stronger, both on an individual level and between members of your organization. This allows for an increase of the information to increase from person to person and group to group.

Different groups read the information that we may pass on through this medium, familiarize themselves with it and deepen it. This is all inspired, passed on, by one of us. We give information in order to take away from humanity the fear of what is to come. To give humanity the understanding that in one respect all that happens is a natural phenomenon. The earth's climate has always gone through changes as a result of the position of its axis, the fluctuation of the axis. Time and again there have been climatic changes. At the same time the number of reincarnated from Atlantis on earth has reached its peak. They have reintroduced the ancient technological knowledge on your earth, have increased its power, have innovated and changed it within the possibilities of the earth in its present form.

In comparison with what humanity can grasp intellectually at present, we see great inventions, great innovations and technological tour de forces. At the same time there is great poverty and stagnation in some countries. There is no development there. It seems as if time has stood still for thousands of years for these people. Great contrasts and large groups of people self-developing on their spiritual paths, who connect with spiritual energy, it seems to be a new religion. A large multitude of people connect with this.

At the same time there is also a large group who are hardened and withdraw themselves, who want to hold on to what they had, on rules and laws, on a lack of insight, who do not want to connect or open themselves and only hold on to what they once had. This group make things increasingly difficult for the large group that has a love of freedom. It continues the issuing of rules and laws which are sometimes sensible but for the most part sensless. Human beings who love freedom and want to develop themselves, increasingly do this on a spiritual level.

What we pass on to you is the freedom to develop oneself in spirituality, to acquire knowledge and to deepen this without establishing rules and laws for this. We try to make humanity aware of the responsibility of life, which one carries and has oneself. That one lives in freedom and stands up for oneself without harming others. We try to explain to you that you are not living at the end of time but at the beginning of a new time. The beginning of a wonderful era. The beginning of an entirely new era. An era of spirituality and knowledge. A small group of obstinate people is gradually paling before the large groups of spiritualists, so to speak.

People who have faith and are convinced through the experience of the workings of the spirit. To date, your organization has made great contributions to this and will continue to do so in the future by passing on information through this medium. The writings will be read and the books will be published in many countries. And the group will find more and more connection and recognition in the information it passes on. We understand that you have compiled a list of questions for this evening and would gladly like to give you the opportunity to ask the first one.

1. During the meditation the master of the book was present. Would you please tell us what the master wants to say to us?

Obviously, he is connected to your group and tries to inspire those working on the book as well as possible. However, at the same time you must stay alert with regard to the purity; there are limits to changes and corrections. That you remain alert and feel inspired to to check the broad outlines, even the details. Do not let outside energies slip in, but stay close to the source.

The meaning, as said and intended. The force, one of our brothers who inspires you, will no doubt inspire you to make the right decisions and arrive at the right insights and he will let you know this through feelings and dreams; he will also let you know the best way to further let these writings take shape. At the same time, the brother who inspires and works on the publication of the books and writings is in your midst, often connected to you, whether you work on a small or a large scale, on a book, your monthly magazine or your periodical. There is a continuous stream of inspiration and a constant connection. Not only with regard to one individual but also with regard to the group. There is even a connection with other groups who are also working on writings, pass on information to the world; this energetic network is also supported and directed by this brother.

2. In every great religious movement there is a taboo on sexuality. Is this a means of controlling the believers? Does it interfere with personal freedom?

Of course the divide and rule method is the best method to keep people in line. You can see this in every political and religious movement. He who determines what is allowed and what is not has a grip on the people. He can forbid, he can allow en he can set the limits.

Those who want to belong to a particular nation or a particular religion, because every human being desires to be socially connected or released from fear by a particular religion, will submit to the demands that made within a political movement, nation or religion. It is pure manipulation of the mind.

However, some people like to be manipulated, in order to get the other part, a supposed salvation, a better place in the hereafter at God's right-hand side, or a higher status on earth, more security, protected by the group; this is why people submit themselves. Many people who do this are not even aware of it and simply follow the general path which makes them feel the safest.

Human beings are socially oriented and want to be protected by the group. Only a few individuals venture outside the group and go their own way. Some people find this interesting and follow this particular individual which result in the formation of other similar groups.

A group free of dogma, free of rules, free of limits, is a group like yours that allows humanity total freedom. One can absorb the information or reject it. No one will monitor this or speak ill of it.

Freedom is considered to be very important. Making your own decisions, being responsible yourself. However, to many this sounds like a utopia. One would think that many would like to belong to such a group, but many people seek the protection of the divide and rule method. This way they are part of something which makes them meet certain demands, which makes it more difficult to be a part of it.

In these groups one is mystical for the sake of being mystical, one keeps secrets for the sake of being secretive and it is in groups like these that people feel protected, safe. While one feels it is much more impalpable, much more frightening when one has to rely on one's own responsibility and decisions.

However, this is the energy of the new age, in which everybody is thrown upon their own resources, and relies on their own responsibility and their own opinion and ideas. Without group protection, without the security provided by a ruler or leader, one does it oneself and is one's own leader and ruler. Your own responsibility with a large degree of freedom. In that sense, your group is far ahead of its time, it is an Aquarius energy and has freed itself from the Pisces Age complex of leaders and followers, the divide and rule method.

3. Besides there being a taboo on sexuality in religious circles, masturbation is completely not done and unmentionable. What is the cause of this aversion?

According to the old ideas from tribes and peoples thousands of years ago it was important that the sexual act took care of offspring. That there were many children, many descendents. Wasting the seed, so to speak, was considered to be a sin. It could have been used for the creation of offspring and making the tribe larger. Many children, many descendents, a larger tribe means more power and security.

Especially this old tribal idea, this old principle, was adopted by the church fathers, by the various religions, as if it were a sin, whereas it is a natural part of every human being. Sexual release, sexual discovery, a discovery of oneself, so to speak.

Now humanity knows better and knows that the seed cannot be wasted, that fertility cannot stop. Now one knows that these old tribal ideas are actually based on differences of opinion, but also on misunderstandings. Solely because one thought that what is wasted distances itself from fertility. That it counteracts or disturbs fertility, whereas the opposite is true.

However, knowledge is power in all cases. The fact that the present religions still hold on to these kinds of delusions is caused by a lack of knowledge, factual knowledge and knowing the facts. If the religions knew that at present they hold on to old tribal ideas from prehistoric times, they would be ashamed that they are so old-fashioned.

4. Is it true that the Vatican possesses the largest collections of pornographic/erotic material in the world?

Of course Catholicism has always used the divide and rule method we mentioned earlier. It has determined what is good and what is bad and has viewed pornography as the work of the devil, showing his evilness through obscene situations.

Everyone who made drawings and paintings, who wrote descriptions, was sometimes caught and everything was confiscated. After that everything was archive, so to speak and so it is true that the Vatican, unwillingly, for the sole purpose of archiving, possesses this large collection. At the same time, if the Vatican follows its own religion, this connects it with demonic energies which, at the one hand, it decries and, on the other hand, it keeps archived.

One wants to have a grip on the situation and know what goes on in the darkest fantasies of the people. According to them this is boosted by demonic forces and in this way they want to have a grip on something that in fact goes on in every human being.

Every human being has fantasies, has certain images of what one can experience in a particular situation, without ever acting it out. Sexuality is an encounter shared by two people whereby they experience and as long one does not harm the other, one complements the other, there is no sin. Then it is being together in a world of feelings, emotion and fantasy. If one does not harm one another there is no wrong intent, there is an experience.

In Buddhism, the origin of old religions, movements, philosophies, and in Atlantis sexuality certainly was not there solely for procreation, but also for the sexual experience, a kind of tantra, a higher-level experience. Sexuality could be experienced and it could be tuned to a spiritual level, which on occasion is still taught in Buddhism and Hinduism.

In that sense sexuality is part of every human being and the experience of it is like musicality, creativity. All these elements are part of human being. If one does not harm one or the other with musicality, it cannot be bad if one enjoys it and the same goes for sexuality. If one uses it in a positive way it cannot be bad.

5. When the ancient Greek culture was thriving it was customary that parents took their sons to a man who would give them a sexual education, among other things. Can this be called positive?

In your present time this will be severely condemned and put into a negative light. However, in a time in which one learned, was taught, was an apprentice and had a master, it was customary that the master initiated the youth in all the knowledge of the world. In philosophy, in knowledge, in trades and crafts and sexuality.

All this belonged together. It was normal and fully accepted in this culture. In your present culture this is severely disapproved of, dissuaded, it is seen as detestable. Similarly, in each culture something will occur which is condemned in the later cultures because it is not understood by the later cultures. Not viewed as something normal or experienced as disgusting.

You can take it from us that in later cultures your culture will be rejected, viewed as detestable. Sometime in the future your grandchildren will eventually say that you were barbarians who ate the flesh of living animals, who were capable of exterminating animals without emotion or feelings, of slaughtering tens of thousands of animals for their skin. They will call you barbarians, speak about you full of disgust, ashamed that they are your descendents.

And now this very same culture condemns more ancient cultures that in their view did horrible things, perverted and disapproving. We only want to state this in order to make clear to you in every culture a particular normality is accepted and that this is normal. That in hindsight, things that were considered to be normal in a particular culture suddenly is not normal anymore and viewed as degenerate. This is a logical example of the development of humanity.

6. Does tantra put human sexuality on a higher level?

One could say that sexuality as an experience, as enjoyment, can be compared with enjoying musicality, music, theatre, drama and art.

One attunes oneself to a higher level and often experiences it in a kind of ecstasy and experiences this on a higher level. Sexuality also has lower domains of pure reproduction, of dominating people by making them suffer or by oppressing them. However, if this happens without mutual agreement, without unity or if one harms the other through sexuality, then it will not be born out of the light, it will be born out of the shadow, which is destructive and has harmful intentions.

You will understand that the brothers of the shadow are keen to connect with everything hat is destructive. Which harms other people and has the potential of inflicting permanent damage. Anything which is against the will of one or the other, anything which is unusual, which the other cannot accept, about which there is no unity, which does not contribute to completion, is born out of negativity because it is destructive and against man's free will.

However, if sexuality is in harmony, if the will is in unity, so that it can be experienced and allowed on a higher level, then it is a tantra, a higher tuning in on spiritual energy.

7. Can we say that every human being is bisexual at birth, but that some people are more inclined towards heterosexuality during the course of their lives (puberty) and other towards homosexuality and that still others are bisexual?

In every human being bisexuality is latently present, but it will be shaped into heterosexuality through the influence of environment and upbringing. However, homosexuality is not the same as bisexuality. It is fixed inside every human being within the interaction between karma from a previous life and possibilities, a human being's own structure. This means that someone who is latently bisexual will have an inclination towards heterosexuality or will remain bisexual, but will not become homosexual. While someone who is homosexual will remain homosexual and will never become bisexual, even less heterosexual.

The differences are formed by what is latently present in a human being, like every human being is latently musical or is latently creative and can become very creative or less creative and can find a particular ultimate form. Someone who naturally gifted at birth, for example, will never lose this gift. If someone is born as a naturally gifted musician, he or she will always remain a naturally gifted musician, whether he or she likes it or not.

This is a fixed construct, on the one hand it is genetic, a particular aptitude, and at the same time it stems from a previous life, in which this 'super experience' was intended as a choice of that particular reincarnation. The same takes place with sexuality. Comparing it to a more accepted synonymous concept like musicality makes it easier for you to understand and makes it easier for you to see where this is going.

We want to emphasize that we never judge people regarding their sexual preference, race, religion, origin. Every human being is valuable in his or her own development. It is only an assessment of events and often someone's previous life or one of someone's previous lives is connected with what one is or has become at the moment of reincarnation.

8. Do you have any advice for humanity about how love and sexuality can be connected in a more harmonious way?

Love, sexuality, one does not exclude the other. However, both can function separately. Love and sexuality as a connection is based on harmony and equality. The feeling that one complements the other, that a unity between two people is formed, sometimes by being opposites but at the same time complementing each other or being equal, knowing the experience of unity.

Pure intention is the most important, honesty and sincerity. Trust is the key word, where there is no trust there can be no relationship. All this is important.

Other factors play a role as well when one encounters one's twin soul. If one encounters something which one recognizes as being a person from a previous incarnation, a large degree of recognition and a deep feeling of connection, then that will be capable of arousing love. It will call forth connections, a feeling of depth and warmth. A feeling of being in love and a feeling of recognition are almost the same.

A feeling of unity and connection, all this is important. Human beings are sometimes brought together on karmic paths and are brought to love and unity. Sometimes the cosmos lends a helping hand so that people can find each other. It is up to every human being what he or she does with this.

9. What are the consequences for children of homosexual partners regarding their sexual preference?

In actual fact, that which lies inside a human being is already present. As stated before, bisexuality is latently present in every human being like musicality is latently present in every human being. If one is raised by two mothers or two fathers this is no different. This does not necessarily mean that the child will become homosexual.

If it is latently bisexual it could experience that or it could go through life as a heterosexual. If it is not determined by karmic causes in a genetic connection, this will not happen. As we have stated earlier in answer to previous questions about this subject, it is not important if a child has two fathers or two mothers. It is much more important that it receives love. What good will it do if a child has a father and a mother but does not receive any love.

A child who receives love from two fathers or two mothers will receive much more love and develop much better, will be able to develop much better because it is raised in a safe and protective environment. In that sense the father-mother-child relation is not always the best because the child might miss the big ingredient of love.

We thank you for your questions, for the energy that you offered and for the reflection. Good evening.